Four normal (well, nearly normal) guys who all once worked together, have moved away from daily email arguments to now discussing all the big sporting, and sometimes, general issues of the day online. We are not "in the know" and just get our information from the media of the day - tv, radio, newspapers, the internet etc - so GET INVOLVED and discuss the main issues with us! This does not work without your interaction!!!

Saturday, 22 September 2012

The 4MOAB Predictions League

Which Bencher is trying to play it safe...?!

As usual, our weekend starts with another set of predictions. This weekend comes with very tricky fixtures throughout with very evenly matched games. The gambling pro would be best to avoid this one and Mike proves just that with 6 draws predicted. This Super Sunday is really worth waiting for and is truly the first big weekend of football to get excited about. After the summer of some super sport, football has struggled to live up to the same excitement. The Liverpool/Man Utd and Man Citeh/Arsenal games have me tantalisingly expecting the real start to the Premier League season. Roll on Sunday, I can’t wait…!




I guess it comes with the disclaimer that if you’re foolish enough to use our assumptions in any form of gambling, please keep your losses to yourself! On the flipside, any successes feel free to buy us a pint or two!

James Freestone

Sunday, 16 September 2012

The 4MOAB Predictions League


Which Bencher is playing their cards right....?!

After a boring international lull it’s back to the Premier League. We continue with our predictions for this weekend’s fixtures. As the international break seems to always screw up the preseason preparation and the momentum from the opening few games, we could see some shock results. Potentially the Stoke/Citeh game is one of those. But game most likely to feature heavily on all accumulators as a win appears to be the Arsenal/Southampton game. A bet of any value would surely be a Sunderland win over Liverpool, not that I’ve looked at any odds or even advocating any gambling, just a thought! Here are the Bencher’s predictions for this weekend.



I guess it comes with the disclaimer that if you’re foolish enough to use our assumptions in any form of gambling, please keep your losses to yourself! On the flipside, any successes feel free to buy us a pint or two!

The 4MOAB Prediction League table looks a bit like this...

 

James Freestone

Friday, 24 August 2012

Four Men Says... FACXTS or FICXTION?

Another edition of my hopefully regular feature called "Four Men Says..." where I ask my fellow Benchers their views about a current event or two.

Now, the football season is well underway, leaving the great Olympic Games of London 2012 a distant memory.  The togetherness of "Team GB" is long gone, as football rivalries come to the fore and football supporters scan Twitter, the Internet, the Papers and all points in between for information on a prospective signing or three which will make the different for their team this season.

One of the teams who have been busy in the transfer market this summer have been Chelsea.  Now, I don't have much time for Chelsea.  They hate us, and we hate them, but having looked quite impressive in their first two matches and sitting on top of the league, with new signings making an impact, I thought I'd ask my colleagues what they thought of Chelsea's signings and their title chances, what with players like Eden Hazard impressing... The question was asked Thursday 23rd August, the day after Chelsea's 4-2 win against Reading.  So here goes

FACXTS OR FICXTION? You are impressed by Chelsea’s signings so far, and Chelsea will mount a serious title challenge this season.


Paul Edmund-Charles (PEC) 
FACXTS(ish) It’s hard to surmise the game last night due to the fact they were edited highlights. Although extended there will ultimately be aspects of the game that would be normally be considered if watched live. Of what I did see, Chelsea stood firm during the period when Reading were in the ascendancy. After half time they played well with Hazard playing the perfect playmaker. I was surprised how much he defends too. I think from what I’ve seen so far this season that Hazard’s influence spreads beyond just him. Other teams will have to watch him and that will free up the space for Ramires, Oscar and Mata. They looked a very decent team going forward, not much long, mainly on the deck but at a pace unusual for Chelsea……
If they gel, and stay free of injury to key players they could hurt the Manchester clubs.

Michael Jhagroo (MJ) @___M_J____
FICXTION Yes, im impressed by Chelski's signings. Having won the Champions League, Roman now wants to produce at team that is more pleasing on the eye. The players they have bought will provide a better standard of football, but may not be as successful in the short term. Personally, I don’t see Chelski winning much this season, So NO, not contenders this season, but will be serious contenders for all major honours next season, once they purge the old boys.

James Freestone (JF) @4menonabench_JF
FICXTION I’m impressed with Hazard, without doubt a quality acquisition to go along side Mata. However the depth to the attacking talent should be a concern. How do they replace Torres, Mata and Hazard when poor form or injuries hit? It’s not like they have a Drogba or Anelka sitting on the bench ready to make an impact. They’ll give the Manchester clubs a stern test, but any sustained title challenge won’t happen. Chelsea feel like the pacesetters you get for a 10k run that slowly fade away in the final 2 laps!

Gavin Woolery-Allen (GWA) @GAV_4MOAB
FACXTS I'm very impressed with Chelsea's signings. Hazard looks like he could take the Prem by storm. Marin is a player I rate, and Oscar has the potential to be a very very good player.  The signings will make Chelsea an attractive team to watch, and have clearly resulted in a change to the way Chelsea play.  I think Chelsea will be up there along with a number of teams this season - with Lampard and Mikel holding, and attacking midfielders playing for Fernando Torres, they have the right mix of solidity and goals.  The only downside I can see to any title challenge is Terry - his legs have gone, and if Torres gets injured.

So there it is - 2.5 to 1.5 in favour of FICXTION.  What do you reckon? Have Chelsea got enough in them to challenge? Let us know below!

The 4MOAB Predictions League

Which Bencher do you believe in....?!


After a great opening weekend to the League that is Premier, we continue with our predictions for this weekend’s fixtures. You would think there would be some logic carried over from last weekend’s performances, however some benchers don’t learn! I’ll point you the avid West Ham fan, Paul, who thinks his beloved Iron’s will get something against Swansea! Obviously signing Matt Jarvis has gone to his head!

 
I guess it comes with the disclaimer that if you’re foolish enough to use our assumptions in any form of gambling, please keep your losses to yourself! On the flipside, any successes feel free to buy us a pint or two!
The prediction league results from last weekend looks a bit like this...


James Freestone

Friday, 17 August 2012

The 4MOAB Predictions League

Which Bencher is getting lucky with his betting slip?

My fellow benchers and I will provide our insight (guesses or in some cases systems[?!]) into the weekends Premier League fixtures. These will be scored throughout the year and we’ll determine the ‘Bencher’ with the most bragging rights or those whose feeling a little deflated!
Premier League






Rules
1) 3 points for the correct score, 1 point for the result and a walk of shame for getting utterly wrong!
2) Each player gets one 'banker', which can earn you double points, highlighted bold.




FIXTURE
RESULT
PREDICTIONS
JAMES
GAVIN
MIKE
PAUL
Saturday 18th August 2012

Arsenal V Sunderland

3-1
3-0
1-0
3-1
Fulham V Norwich

2-1
2-0
1-0
2-1
QPR V Swansea

0-0
4-1
1-0
1-1
Reading V Stoke

0-1
2-1
1-0
4-0
West Brom V Liverpool

1-1
0-2
1-0
2-2
West Ham V Aston Villa

0-0
1-1
1-0
1-2
Newcastle V Tottenham

2-1
0-1
1-0
1-1
Sunday 19th August 2012

Wigan V Chelsea

0-2
1-1
1-0
0-2
Man City V Southampton

3-1
2-0
1-0
2-0
Monday 20th August 2012

Everton V Man Utd

1-3
1-1
1-0
0-2
Wednesday 22nd August 2012

Chelsea V Reading

3-0
2-1
1-0
1-0
TOTALS
0
0
0
0


I guess it comes with disclaimers that if you’re foolish enough to use our assumptions in any form of gambling, please keep your losses to yourself! On the flipside, any successes feel free to buy us a pint or two!

Wednesday, 15 August 2012

Should I Stay or Should I Go Now?

Robin’s Dilemma & the Strength of Manchester Utd

The RVP situation draws similarities to the Vieria saga of 2001. PV4 questioned the clubs ambitions after the signings of Richard Wright, Francis Jeffers and Gio Van Bronkhurst. However once Sol Campbell was signed up Vieria quickly retracked on his previous statement. So it’s much the same with RVP. He released his statement knowing Poldoski was signed and Giroud almost confirmed. Has the signing of Santi Carzola changed his mind? Who knows.

If he goes to Utd, all Arsenal have done is strengthen their rivals and questions will be asked of the clubs ambitions. On the other hand if we get £25million for a 29 year old in the last year of his contract with a history of serious long-term injuries, that must represent great business?



That follows on to Utds ambitions. Are Utd still a desirable club considering the power of Man Citeh and their Premier League Title? Current transfers and the inability to secure Modric, Moura or RVP (to date) would suggest the lure of Man Utd has diminished somewhat. However, with Financial Fair Play coming in to effect are both clubs just trying to cut their cloth accordingly? Both clubs have a significant amount of players they would likely move on if they could find suitors. But with an inflated wage bill started by Chelsea and increased by Man Citeh there are still players like Berbatov and Averagebyour that struggle to move on. I expect The Boards of each club have issued ultimatums to trim their squads before new signings. This will likely make the 19 point difference between top and 3rd much reduced and Utd, in particular, will face increasing pressure this season from Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool to stay in the Champions League.


James Freestone

Monday, 13 August 2012

Four Men says...

Tuesday 14th August 2012.  The day after the day after the last day of the London 2012 Olympic Games - probably one of the most inspiring, addictive and feelgood fortnights that London has ever seen.

The Opening Ceremony was magnificent, the sport was fantastic, the weather was actually alright, the coverage was world class (big up the BBC), the public interest was sky high and the mood wherever I went was upbeat (not to any sporting events unfortunately!).

With the Olympic Games still so fresh in the mind, I thought I'd use it to gain momentum for the blog (is that the legacy they were on about?) and to try a new feature which will include me asking a question for all of the Benchers.  For now I've called it "Four Men says..."  Check it out.

What were your top 3 moments of the London 2012 Olympic Games?

Michael Jhagroo (MJ)  @___M_J____
In third place………….Chris Hoy using some sort of in-built 'Nitro' to blister away from the pack to win Gold.

in second spot……….4x100m final. World record will stand for decades. With Bolt doing the Mobot to boot. Lovely touch. Respect.

1st………………………….Mo Farah winning the 5000. The determination to stay at the front for the whole last lap. Gave me goose bumps.



James Freestone (JF) @4menonabench_JF
1.  The Super Saturday but in particular Mo Farah 10k win celebrations – It’s an easy choice for number one. Great personal moment and highlighted even more with the crazy celebrations from Denise Lewis and Collin Jackson.


2.  Michael Phelps getting beaten by Chad Le Clos – Outstanding win and the interview of a besotted dad was great to watch. Plus Phelps showed the humility that’s made him arguably the greatest Olympian with the way he conducted himself at the medal ceremony.

3. Just having the opportunity to live the atmosphere in the Olympic Park – Just Fantastic.

I nearly chose Chris Hoy too. That moment plus Mo’s final lap of the 10k were only times I actually shouted at the TV screen!! That doesn’t happen very often, even watching Arsenal!!

Paul Edmund-Charles
1.  David Rudisha – Quiet, unassuming silent assassin, ran the legs off his competitors with 200m section times of 23s, 25s, 26s and 26s……ridiculous. His humility when collecting his gold and the fact that he was grateful to Lord Coe for his input. A class act.


2.  Nicola Adams – the 1st woman in Olympic history to win a gold medal, seeing her name in history for the end of time. She was fast, accurate and powerful…..she beat world ranked boxers to win and the crowd was (as Beckham would say) Amazing. Nicola, Nicola, Nicola the crowd screamed, she’ll have that memory for the rest of her life…..

3.  Now this wasn’t a performance but left one of the biggest images in my mind. Either before, during or after the 200m, the camera’s focussed on a small boy holding a Go Bolt sign he had made, the boy was with his mum screaming along with the crowd and looked excited beyond belief to be there. In one hand he had his go bolt sign in the other he had a Jamaican flag which he was waving. The reason I felt so good about this was the boy, he was white. Bolt’s colour meant nothing to him and if we can teach the kids in this country not to see colour then the country has to be a better place.

Honourable mention to the Denise Lewis, Colin Jackson Michael Johnson behind the scenes support of Usain Bolt during the 100m.


Gavin Woolery-Allen @GAV_4MOAB
Honourable Mention:  Going to the opening Ceremony technical rehearsal and watching the Opening Ceremony. Work of art.  Showed there was more to these Isles, and I’m pleased that I was one of the few who saw more than the millions at home. Oh and my brother was in them.

1.  Super Saturday (Ennis, Rutherford and Farrah 10k) – Britain’s best hour in track and field ever. A night to remember. Even I got caught up in Team GB mania


2.   David Rudisha 800m world record. An amazing feat.

3.  Mens 200m Jamaica clean sweep topped off with the “No English Straight Patois” lyric by Warren Weir.  I liked how Blake and Weir came across unpolished and raw, unlike Bolt who softens his accent due to his world-wide persona.

So there you have it. Four different people. Four different perspectives. The London 2012 Olympic Games gave us so many memories - hopefully that we will never forget.  Individual performances, historic moments, the atmosphere of Olympic Park, and the unity of mankind have touched the Four Men - and I am sure there are many more memories we could easily refer to (if only we were allowed five picks, or even ten!).

Feel free to add your top 3 London 2012 moments in the comments bit below. 

Until next time...